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Taxi
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:52 pm Reply with quote
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Isn't +2 for a intercontinental win too much?
There are much more european clans than american clans, so of course american clans will play much more intercontinental matches. I believe +1 would be enough. Just wondering.

Example:

R7. 15 5 0 212 161 +51 92
~/SM\~ 13 5 2 210 140 +70 90
Bee\\ 17 15 6 437 356 +81 86

Surprised

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:07 pm Reply with quote
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Take a peek at South American clans Smile

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:06 pm Reply with quote
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thats bad logic Taxi. There arent many NA clans so europeon clans also have more clans to play during times when they are online (50 compared to like 8 ). As you can see, most europeon clans have alredy played over 40 matches, while most NA clans are stuck around 20 matches.

Also, Bee's points are that low because some of thier wins came after thier 20th match, so they get -2 points for those wins.

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:43 pm Reply with quote
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I agree with what Poop said, the fact that there are less American clans also means it's harder for them to play and be as active as European clans. It's not so easy to play intercontinental matches not to mention that winning them is harder than a normal cw, considering the lag factor. I think +2 points is not too much. It's true that North American clans will play more intercontinentals but keep in mind that every clan has the chance to play against every NA clan (and clans from other continents), reaching the maximum amount of intercontinentals. Of course that's just in theory and won't happen, Im just saying that while NA clans indeed play more intercontinentals, they aren't easily won and they can't play as many normal clan wars due to having less clans on their continent.


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Taxi
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:02 pm Reply with quote
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Hum, it's true that it's harder for them to find as many cw's as an european clan, but it isn't harder to win an intercontinental, both have lag.

Ok, you conviced me. I didn't think that some os Bee's victory matches were played after 20 matches.

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:09 pm Reply with quote
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SCTFL is anyways just 'Noob-Bashing' so this +2 points for intercontinental matches arent worth mentioning. If youre active and play the clans in the lower part of the ladder you dont have any problems to reach Top 16...
For my taste there are too much clans above Rank 16 which arent capable of beating ANYONE above Rank 16...

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:51 pm Reply with quote
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I beg to differ Metal|Kid. The only clan in the top 16 that probably shuldnt be there right now is NMS. Everyother clan can beat any clan under the top 16.

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:31 pm Reply with quote
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Well, there are clans who arent in the top 16 who are definitley better than many of the Top 16 Clans...like SN for example.

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:23 pm Reply with quote
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Or leet. Razz

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:41 pm Reply with quote
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or 2wai

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:07 am Reply with quote
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MeTaL|KiD wrote:
Well, there are clans who arent in the top 16 who are definitley better than many of the Top 16 Clans...like SN for example.


Or not.... check who has SN played so far : http://sctfl.soldat.nl/forum/viewforum.php?f=52&clan=66&win=1&loss=1&draw=1&continent=0&season=0
Id say only SM is good there and it was a tie.
They refuse to play good clans.

I wouldn't call SN a pro clan, decent yeah.

Also I would like to know who is under top 16 who could beat most of the current TOP16 clans atm (other than SN).

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:22 am Reply with quote
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Puh we will see how "decent" we are Wink

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:53 am Reply with quote
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SN has beaten clans which are Top 16 Clans atm, so these Clans (FF, LP, etc.) are decent to? It was all about Top 16 Clans, not about Top 3^^

Even we (DoG) are able to beat some of the current Top 16 Clans..

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poop
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:04 pm Reply with quote
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Your only coming up with 1 clan, which isnt enough to say what you said previously

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If youre active and play the clans in the lower part of the ladder you dont have any problems to reach Top 16...
For my taste there are too much clans above Rank 16 which arent capable of beating ANYONE above Rank 16...


Yes, SN beat FF LP and tied SM, however clans beat eachother all the time, that doesnt mean that they are a top clan. Although I do believe SN is probably a top 16 clan at the moment and should be there instead of NMS, they should play more than 1 match per day average. Your taking one clan and generalizing the whole situation.

Overall, like I said before, 15 out of 16 clans in the top 16 SHOULD be there. And we will see what the situation is when the playoffs come.

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:36 pm Reply with quote
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you go update some stats instead of discussing around pointlessly will ya, lazy bastards :>

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